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Apr 11, 2023·edited Apr 11, 2023

It's a difficult situation for parents now. What in the 90s would have been mild occurrences of autogynephilia, which would have otherwise gone unobserved, is now going to be amplified into a "trans" identity.

I am not surprised that parents and counsellors are reluctant to consider whether their son has autogynephilia, given there now exists such a stigma around it. I have written about this issue here: https://since2010.substack.com/p/part-7-rogd-rapid-onset-gender-dysphoria

I think it remains a good idea to encourage boys to spend less time online, away from stimulus such as niche pornography and "gender identity" ideology, which can magnify autogynephilia into a disorder, occupying a larger role in a male's life than it otherwise would have done in the past.

Of course, there may also be a minority who would have always found autogynephilia difficult to deal with, even in the past.

I still think the best short article for parents trying to understand their sons is: https://4thwavenow.com/2017/12/07/gender-dysphoria-is-not-one-thing/

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Having read your article I find it ironic you think your child has been "radicalized" into a QAnon-esque situation, when it's clear from reading this that you were the one radicalized by stuff you found on the internet. I understand it's scary and new to hear feelings like that but you need to be understanding. You got sucked down the rabbit hole, it's okay to come back up for air and clarity.

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Where does this stop?

https://thepostmillennial.com/trans-health-group-claims-eunuch-is-a-gender-identity-says-it-can-be-identified-in-teens?utm_campaign=64487

"The World Professional Association for Transgender Health (WPATH) has released its Standards of Care Version 8 (SOC8)."

“Eunuch individuals are those assigned male at birth (AMAB) and wish to eliminate masculine physical features, masculine genitals, or genital functioning” it explains. “As with other gender diverse individuals, eunuchs may also seek castration to better align their bodies with their gender identity. As such, eunuch individuals are gender nonconforming individuals who have needs requiring medically necessary gender-affirming care”.

"WPATH recommends eunuch.org for more information, where a person can view a selection of “adult fiction”, including stories about “the castration of males of various ages”, in other words: child-castration pornography.

“Eunuch Archives hosts over 3,000 pieces of fictional child pornography that detail the rape, torture, and killing of children. In some narratives, children with stunted puberty are raped by doctors. In others, children are castrated by force as part of a sadistic sexual torture ritual,” reported Reduxx earlier this year.

One of the listed contributors of SOC8 is Thomas Johnson PhD, who according to Reduxx “has for over two decades participated in [the] fetish forum (Eunuch Archives) that hosts and produces extreme sadomasochistic written pornography involving the castration and torture of children” and whose “academic interests advocate for expanding the concept of ‘gender identity’ to include men with sadomasochistic and even pedophilic castration fantasies.”

Aside from adding eunuch as a gender identity option for children, the World Professional Association for Transgender Health has also removed the minimum age for puberty blockers and hormones, as long as the child has reached ‘Tanner Stage 2’, which can be as young as 9 years old.

“Chest masculinization surgery” i.e. double mastectomies “can be considered in minors” and vaginoplasty may be considered for under 18s.

The guidelines also recommend that health care professionals treating adolescents involve parents in the assessment and treatment process “unless their involvement is determined to be harmful to the adolescent.”

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I don't disagree with the radicalization theory, but I don't understand why it's being presented as at odds with AGP, nor do I understand the mention of "true AGP." Clearly, one is radicalized *about* something, and it sounds like you're describing boys radicalized about their AGP feelings. I also see no reason why arousal at the idea of oneself as female couldn't manifest as a specific looking female, including an unrealistic one, as in anime.

I think AGP is misunderstood (often as fetish, or as "faking it"). I recommend Anne Lawrence's writing on it.

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This is exactly what my son went through. Choosing to play games as large-breasted female avatars running through virtual realities for hours at a time with voice altering aps on their microphones also plays a massive part in their self identity crisis. Hentai (anime) porn is also a big influence, especially when you look up mirror neurons in the brain.

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Very interesting thoughts and hypotheses. My only pushback is to this fragment:

"...an extreme form of feminism that portrays most or all men as essentially violent predators, who can blame our boys for wanting to opt out?"

Which feminism are you talking here then? Because whenever we gendercritical feminists try to bring up the fact that males are on average way more aggressive, violent and sexual abusive than women, it's seen as if we say that all men are violent all the time (So saying '99% of sexual violence is done by males' is interpreted often as '99% of males are sexually violent'...). We don't say that. We say that the share of violence is balanced towards males and therefore we women need safe spaces.

I really don't like it that it seems to be suggested that women trying to talk about male violence are then seen as responsible for how boys regard that violence. Talking about male violence is still a kind of taboo. Really. I try it on Twitter regularly when talking about single sex spaces and it's impossible almost.

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Sep 15, 2022·edited Sep 15, 2022

I think everything you’ve expressed in this well-written essay has a parallel for girls with ROGD who want to transition to boys. It’s the opposite side of the same coin. The radicalisation is a big part of it. It reminds me of the way young people were recruited into militant Islamic groups after 9/11 or into Q-Anon more recently.

My daughter showed no signs of gender dysphoria until her early 20s and the beginning of Covid, when her use of social media increased. During the pandemic she also started to show traits of what I now believe could be borderline personality disorder. Tourette's-like tics spread via social media a few years ago, mostly among girls: https://health.clevelandclinic.org/tiktok-causing-tics-in-teen-girls/. Cases of Munchausen-like behaviour are also spreading on social media.

There are similarities between BPD and ROGD regarding identity issues. Many young people with BPD identify as trans or non-binary. I feel like I’ve read every resource about ROGD and BPD and I’m still disappointed with the lack of research on both of these topics. Why are respected media outlets like The Atlantic and The Economist not reporting on this more critically? I’m currently reading a book that doesn’t mention gender issues or personality disorders by name, but I think the author, Dr Gordon Neufeld, has some valid points. It’s called “Hold on to your kids: Why parents need to matter more than peers.” The author thinks that it’s an attachment disorder – our culture has become so peer-oriented that children no longer have an attachment to their families. Their peers become everything and their online communities replace the older, wiser adults in their lives who used to guide them. I recommend it.

I am estranged from my adult daughter now, as she has cut off all contact with me. My son is not showing signs of ROGD, but he is incredibly troubled by the promotion of steroids and obsession with the gym/extreme masculinity that’s targeting boys online. If I were in your shoes and my children were still living under my roof, I would replace their iPhones with flip phones, limit contact online, and homeschool them for a year while traveling abroad as a family. I mean that in all seriousness.

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Parents need to be parents! Get your kids offline & take away their phones. Your kids should be so busy with school, homework, sports/music/etc & a job (!), along with structure & boundaries, they don’t have time for this nonsense. Parents of these kids have a huge responsibility for the situation they find themselves in, which is terrible, but not surprising.

I would argue that families not attending religious services regularly while kids are growing up is also a big factor.

Parents are raising self-indulgent, weak, easily-influenced kids, who have no innate sense of self or of a higher power, being part of something bigger than themselves, and it shows.

If this was my kid, and things were this bad, it would be military school. The toughest love, major wake up call I could deliver. Why? Because this boy’s entire life is at stake. He likes Communism? Okay, let’s see what happens when you have no choices in a barracks.

When you remove God from everything, people will find a replacement religion: drugs/alcohol, porn, transgenderism.

Stop indulging these kids and start parenting them! Get tough!!!

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The OP dances daintily around the real issue. Certainly some adolescent MtF is the result of autogynephilia. This can set on with staggering rapidity. Where I live, there are many ado AGPs and they are not shy. In many the 'change' took less than a month and in some, less than a week. Until we find out what actually triggers autogynephilia, we cannot formulate strategies to counter it, other than one-to-one counselling. There are not enough sceptical counsellors. (I am one.)

However, the OP rightly suggests that something else is going on and there is. It appears to be a form of autoandrophobia, the fear of being a man, or the hatred of the idea of being a man. This is evident from the statements of subjects with this condition. What the OP dpes not do, spectacularly, is even ask why this autoandrophobia exists. She does not point to decades of anti-masculine propaganda pushed out by Hollywood and the MSM. She does not mention the teachers deliberately punishing boys - for being boys. She does not discuss the literally billions of anti-masculine online comments, some of which have been rehearsed here, which basically say 'woman good, man bad'. This is only a tiny selection of the vast amount of anti-masculine hate-speak we live under - and mostly, promulgated through social media, conventional media and education.

No, not all men are rapists. No, not all men start wars, though they die in them. No, not all men are violent criminals. No, not all men are abusers. In fact, nearly all men are decent, kind, courteous and protective. Yet the opposite message is hammered out, day after day. And where does it come from? It comes from feminism and the relentless anti-masculine campaign its leaders have carried on for 50 years now.

If you want to save these boys, you have to destroy feminism. Otherwise, sacrifice them on the altar of a bitter, jealous, man-hating cult and then, please, stop complaining and trying to divert the blame. That's your choice and we shall know you by the decision you take.

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Examining the effect of anime on boys….fired off some ancient brain cells. It may not be an entirely new thing.

This is what I remembered. In 1978, beginning at age 17, I had a brief relationship with a man 18 years older than me. I had only had 2 sexual partners before him and was creeped out by the way he always squealed in a high pitched feminine way when he experienced sexual orgasm. After a year he moved on to another young girl. However, I was pregnant and had a son to him, b 1979, so we’ve always stayed in contact. That became a lot easier by internet after the turn of the century as he lives in another country.

I was vaguely aware he had a sexual kink so I asked him about it 20 years ago. He sent me several pictures of anime girls who had protuberant adolescent type breasts along with (very large) penises and were illustrated submitting to various sexual acts either by mythical beasts like dragons or other anime girls. I was quite astonished and asked him why he found these images sexually exciting. He told me as a young boy in the 50s/60s he had loved comics and found the images of women alluring when they were shown in revealing clothes (often) or were assaulted by men (often) and shown beaten and stripped. He learned to masturbate over these images. Bearing in mind my sons father is now 79 years old.

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I could go through your points one by one and refute those that are wrong, as in, for example, the claim that 'Bailey and Blanchard were responsible for the HSTS model' -- they weren't, it was defined many years before WW2. Blanchard (Bailey did none of the primary research) just took it off the shelf, as it were. But it would be tedious to go through every one of the glosses, oversimplifications and errors so let's focus on what you did NOT say. You never once mentioned feminism.

Feminism, especially the radical form, is the root cause of the 'trans' epidemic. Boys are told from a young age that men are responsible for every ill in society, for all rapes, for all wars and for everything bad. They are taught that they must never be mascuine and that the worst and most irresponsible thing they could do would be to grow up into a man. And they are taught this by feminists. Now agreed, you touch on this in passing but you do not point the finger of blame and without that, why bother?

What is needed is the wholesale grubbing out of feminist ideology, especially from schools and academia, but elsewhere too. If women in positions of authority refuse to stop preaching toxic feminist doctrines, then they should get their jotters. We are writing off an entire generation -- possibly more than one -- of young men to a vicious misandry whoich should have no place in society at all.

The problem, I reiterate, is feminism and until you deal with that, it's just going to get worse. But feel free to go on burying your head in the sand. Feminism has killed the West and I advise all young men there to get out while they still can.

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With the selling out of the Medical and Psychological leadership where can you turn for help?

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Sep 14, 2022·edited Sep 14, 2022

Parents, if you want to find out if your child is using wrong-sex pronouns, PLEASE ask their teachers. Teachers are not allowed to volunteer that information, but I don't think many would lie if asked. I am a teacher and I can tell you that most teachers and administrators (at least at my school) are ignorant of the ROGD trend and believe this is a simple matter of "inclusion." They have no idea of where this leads a year (or two, or three) after kids have graduated.

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when i was a kid, i knew many who used drugs more than i did, kids i had known since elementary school. i noticed the ones who used drugs more often also kept peers who did and together they formed their own alternate reality. everyone else could see how the drugs and drug lifestyle was harming them, but they lived in a alternate reality validated by their drug using peers. imo, what your son is going thru is online peer validation supported by the 1000s of cult like talking points of gender activists which they form their bond around, having normal teen issues/angst and also sorting out or spilling out whatever feelings of abandonment or personal baggage he may have that we all do. he wants to rush to meds et al to either be validated from his online peers or becuase hes eager to receive the promised benefits to escape his pain or he just that self righteous and arrogant which also is normal of kids. he maybe being love bombed online (manipulated into trans id) theres no one way to id as trans and ppl do it for a variety of different reasons. as a parent i can only imagine how scary this it. certainly this would never had happened without the internet. this isnt the agp of blanchard. that agp may be something learned over time , something that progresses. although porn was available then it wasnt anything like todays internet when blanchard did his reseach i cant remember what years that was. the agp of blanchard, in my opinion starts with less stimulating porn or other endeavors and builds to that. i had agp for many years but i never quit my day job (boyfriend husband father) and i never told anyone. im very GC and think ppl most people claiming to be agp are liars and the whole of gender ideology is 98% a con with every stat, study and claim complete lies. just check out the methodology in any of their "studys" your son hasn't had time to be agp of blanchard since that takes time to develope. some compulsive ppl jump in totally and then desist from things quickly. let hope he is like this. obviously it would good to get the wifi and internet away from him. my kids have phones with google family where they cant have apps on the phone. but theyre younger so its easier . the kid needs to get out more. you are enabling him just by giving internet. if he wants internet he can get a fuckin job to pay for it. that will help him. hes not the only person thats like this. many people are like this and have similar issues that are nothing to do with gender . i know 40 year olds who still live at home are burdens on their parents yet act like victims and its a constant pity party. u hv to be your kids best friend but not enable him. thats not easy to do.

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I believe they are becoming radicalized into believing they are transgender through a perfect storm of influences, both online and off.

THIS 👆👆👆👆👆

I agree 💯, same with my children. Absolutely suckered in......

Much love to you 💜

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Internet porn basically induces autogynephilia, both by the the nature of it and there are whole genres devoted to it, so I wouldn’t rule that out

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