Note: I’m not a therapist. My parenting experience is limited to children and teens with no significant mental health issues or spectrum disorders. As a mom of a newly 18 year old son, who has been questioning his gender identity for the last twenty months, I’m no stranger to the ups and downs of this terrifying and depressing journey. My recent hobby, called “Helping My Son Accept Biological Reality,” led me both to research and rumination, and lately to an attempt of some kind of personal growth. When I randomly picked up a book at a used bookstore, titled “The Spirit of Happiness: The Monks of New Skete,” I was simply attracted to its tattered cover and soothing title. The very first chapter, however, gave me an insight into deprogramming the cult-captured teens which I haven’t encountered before.
Thank you. Well written and insightful. It is hard to not put myself on the roller coaster. Looking for every little sign of possible distance. It is a long game. Not a sprint. Thank you for sharing.
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How do you deprogram a 22 year old that has moved away. I am at such a loss! I am angry and worried and this is destroying me. I have a good relationship with my child. I am doing everything I can to keep the communication open. I do that mostly by keeping my mouth shut as there’s never seems to be enough time with him now that he’s moved away to have any conversation. Any help would be greatly appreciated from anyone that has older kids. He never displayed anything as child and I know I’m not missing the signs. This is a crazy time in our life and I just wanted to go away. I’m just waiting for the day that he will wake up! And yes, I’m still calling my male born child he. He has given us permission to do that and I’m grateful for this small win.
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This piece actually made me feel better for the path I am taking with my son, thank you for that. I am typically wracked with guilt, and am walking a tightrope in the context of our relationship. I am aware of the consequences of just telling him outright how I feel, and I can't survive that outcome. I recently had to calm him from hysterics, telling him there is no "trans genocide"! He is really in the grips of it! I am so angry at the people who tell him to feel frightened, and persecuted for no reason. He should be living a happy, free, young life. Instead he is paranoid and terrified about non-existent things. He did listen to me, and calm down, but I'm not sure he truly believed me. I really don't understand what the appeal is of this victimhood complex, and genocide talk, when his life is good by pretty much every measure. I am determined to still be there when the delusions begin to break.
This is indeed very spot-on, all of this has been observed and put into practice since the existence of the Scientology Church (& Co). I would like to add to this: pack this process with 1) prolonged exposure to nature. Whether long walks along the river, playing with dogs or horses, a camping weekend... 2) Arts and music. All forms of being creative. Poetry. Dancing. Creating a flower garden. Redoing the house. Cooking, ceramics work, fabric dying... Whatever you can do and get the person to do. One of the most underestimated and most powerful healing acts for any sort of disappointment, emotional and mental breakdown is creativity, being creative.
IIRC cult deprogramming is most successful on the downslope from the inductee's peak of euphoria. As you say, the gloss has to come off the shiny thing first, and only then will the child want to be led out of error. Past efforts to kidnap and deprogram cultists were least successful while the inductee was still in the honeymoon phase. "Rescue" and deprogramming of cultists who are ready to leave the cult has a far higher rate of success.
“instead of the focusing on the “signs of desistance” which are invariably followed by our own despair and disappointment. “
That is me!!! He is wearing less make up today?, he has taken his she/her badges off his bag?, he called me mum! (Very unusual these days) just go put the badges back on, put in more make up than ever, wearing a skirt out to dinner for the first time. Such a roller coaster.
Is transing rebellion against the sexful deplorable places humans have taken sexuality? Like finding a new low? Proving that hell is indeed bottomless? That hell can always be made worse? Transing is the new way to rebel against what we have created and allowed? God help us all!
Thanks for this! I would add my own experience when my kids announced they were both trans to me a few years ago and after that I tried showing videos )bad move I know)
But then I just ignored all things trans or gender related. Two years later with one at college, there’s great resentment and non forgiveness for me ignoring this subject for almost two years. So I’m not sure that not talking about it was such a good idea. Now I’m working on regaining trust amid this huge wall put up because I never did talk about it with the two of them. The younger one (17) is more forgiving and open. It’s my eldest that’s holding on to that pain and hurt against me.
There are Two Phases—a Mother’s Intuition about Gentle Deprogramming
Thank you for this thoughtful and gentle article.
Thank you. Well written and insightful. It is hard to not put myself on the roller coaster. Looking for every little sign of possible distance. It is a long game. Not a sprint. Thank you for sharing.
And one more, Good night and God Bless. US ALL! Mountains Are moving have faith. Stay strong Our chikdren and adults are going to need us.
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How do you deprogram a 22 year old that has moved away. I am at such a loss! I am angry and worried and this is destroying me. I have a good relationship with my child. I am doing everything I can to keep the communication open. I do that mostly by keeping my mouth shut as there’s never seems to be enough time with him now that he’s moved away to have any conversation. Any help would be greatly appreciated from anyone that has older kids. He never displayed anything as child and I know I’m not missing the signs. This is a crazy time in our life and I just wanted to go away. I’m just waiting for the day that he will wake up! And yes, I’m still calling my male born child he. He has given us permission to do that and I’m grateful for this small win.
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This piece actually made me feel better for the path I am taking with my son, thank you for that. I am typically wracked with guilt, and am walking a tightrope in the context of our relationship. I am aware of the consequences of just telling him outright how I feel, and I can't survive that outcome. I recently had to calm him from hysterics, telling him there is no "trans genocide"! He is really in the grips of it! I am so angry at the people who tell him to feel frightened, and persecuted for no reason. He should be living a happy, free, young life. Instead he is paranoid and terrified about non-existent things. He did listen to me, and calm down, but I'm not sure he truly believed me. I really don't understand what the appeal is of this victimhood complex, and genocide talk, when his life is good by pretty much every measure. I am determined to still be there when the delusions begin to break.
This is indeed very spot-on, all of this has been observed and put into practice since the existence of the Scientology Church (& Co). I would like to add to this: pack this process with 1) prolonged exposure to nature. Whether long walks along the river, playing with dogs or horses, a camping weekend... 2) Arts and music. All forms of being creative. Poetry. Dancing. Creating a flower garden. Redoing the house. Cooking, ceramics work, fabric dying... Whatever you can do and get the person to do. One of the most underestimated and most powerful healing acts for any sort of disappointment, emotional and mental breakdown is creativity, being creative.
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IIRC cult deprogramming is most successful on the downslope from the inductee's peak of euphoria. As you say, the gloss has to come off the shiny thing first, and only then will the child want to be led out of error. Past efforts to kidnap and deprogram cultists were least successful while the inductee was still in the honeymoon phase. "Rescue" and deprogramming of cultists who are ready to leave the cult has a far higher rate of success.
“instead of the focusing on the “signs of desistance” which are invariably followed by our own despair and disappointment. “
That is me!!! He is wearing less make up today?, he has taken his she/her badges off his bag?, he called me mum! (Very unusual these days) just go put the badges back on, put in more make up than ever, wearing a skirt out to dinner for the first time. Such a roller coaster.
Is transing rebellion against the sexful deplorable places humans have taken sexuality? Like finding a new low? Proving that hell is indeed bottomless? That hell can always be made worse? Transing is the new way to rebel against what we have created and allowed? God help us all!
Thanks for this! I would add my own experience when my kids announced they were both trans to me a few years ago and after that I tried showing videos )bad move I know)
But then I just ignored all things trans or gender related. Two years later with one at college, there’s great resentment and non forgiveness for me ignoring this subject for almost two years. So I’m not sure that not talking about it was such a good idea. Now I’m working on regaining trust amid this huge wall put up because I never did talk about it with the two of them. The younger one (17) is more forgiving and open. It’s my eldest that’s holding on to that pain and hurt against me.