Ah, Summer Camp, that grand American tradition, where kids and teens go for anywhere from 1 week to 2 glorious months of escape from parents, school pressure, and star-crossed teen romance. Where they revel in newfound independence, canoe racing, hikes, stargazing, creepy campfire tales, and games of Mafia, and bond in shared disgust over communal bathrooms, spiders and mice, and unidentifiable food objects.
Why? Why does every place we turn, our kids have this right in their face? My son was 18 before I knew about all of this- it's been 7 years. I had no place to turn, or how to pull him away. And now camps (and even Kdg, 1st and 2nd graders) are being sucked into this.
I hope your son's sense of self only strengthens, but sending him to this kind of environment must be anxiety provoking. I think the fact that you trusted him to go, sends a very powerful message to your son. I'd be looking forward to an essay-update. <3
Before I found out I didn’t have to affirm I actually registered my daughter as a male at a YMCA camp, and they were fine with it! Going to let her stay with biological males! Cancelled this camp as soon as I came to my senses. Got an email after the camp talking about inclusivity and all the rest of it. So sad.
HERE I GO AGAIN: One of the ways to try to stop this is through the courts. School systems, medical centers, and summer camps should have to pay millions in damages to folks, who as minors, were and are being brainwashed and harmed by this quicksand pit of thinking. I suggest contacting America First Legal (1-972-247-3800) or http://www.aflegal.org. Give these people a try. If they cannot help they may direct one to someone who can.
Honestly...this camp sounds like a nightmare. I hope it's the final nail in the gender coffin for your teenager. I cannot even begin to imagine being a young male at a summer camp counseled by confused l2+2 +5 lesbians!
This reminds me of my Evangelical Bible Camp experiences. I distinctly recall sitting in the bleachers at one of the lectures, noting to myself the ridiculousness of the speaker's statements. I was about 13 years old at the time. Upon my return home, I informed my mother of the divisive nature of the head speaker's speeches. My mother said to me: Keep thinking for yourself. That's great. And in the meantime, enjoy the canoeing, lake swimming, archery, and pottery classes -- all for the low price of $35 for one whole week! Got to take the good with the bad. That's life!
And, upon reflection, that stands out as a defining moment in my mind. It basically predicted a lifetime of sitting in rooms full of morally superior people, sussing them out, and bemusedly deciding I don't belong -- and don't want to.
WOW! Our innocent children and grandchildren are not safe anywhere! I was the Daisy, Brownie and Girl Scout leader for my daughter’s Troop for years. I took these sweet little girls to the same girl scout camp that I had attended 30+ years earlier. I cannot imagine having to experience it now with trans-gender counselors - I would not have been accepting or approving of having any males on campsite back then even if they had long hair or wore a dress and lipstick! This is WRONG! I pray that this world wakes up to the lies!
“So, there was nothing to be concerned about (except, I guess, the denial of material reality, and the expectation that parents ignore the evidence of their own eyes and ears?!).”
How have we come to this as a society?
I think it’s because, in the name of accepting and encouraging and not wanting to shame or stigmatize we suspended reality. I think we need to, gentle in manner but firm in conviction, push back at every opportunity. It will result in people being angry, labeling us wrongly (as “-ists” and “-phobes”), and perhaps even losing friendships. But our kids are important. Individually to us as parents, of course, but also collectively to society as the future adults who will lead, educate, and govern. And I do not want to be led, educated, or governed by somebody who has had a break with reality.
I have a friend whose child is a TiF and flies out from the UK to the US every year to act as one of these camp counsellors. Their indoctrination garnered from school, themselves a traumatised lesbian IMO. Now untouchable, no questions allowed to be asked. Complete submission expected to the lie.
I can only imagine the horrors that go on in these camps (smashing cis-heteronormativity) and imagine a number of kids will come home indoctrinated into the cult.
Sadly, I would recommend against summer camp unless you proactively know the camp does not support the Gender Ideology Cult. Also, you need to know they are vigilant with the helpers they hire. To give a different example, a particular church might not support GI but they could have a youth counselor who thinks he is helping children be their true selves.
None of this was on our front burner, back burner, or any burner when our daughter decided she must be a gay boy about half way through high school something like 5 years ago - and had a secret name and pronouns at school. I did not appreciate then that summer camp had been a factor at all but it was.
I hope I do not offend anyone when I voice my opinion that it is not responsible to send a kid in this state to be a counselor of any kind. Younger kids look up to older kids. We should not be part of the problem. Our daughter is as yet unharmed and is engaged with life & not acting so weird anymore. Cross fingers.
I hope that we do hit a tipping point with this garbage. Enough is enough.
With what I know today and have seen done to our daughter, I would have pulled the plug on that summer camp plan in a heartbeat. This trans vortex has been made so powerful with its promises of celebration, inclusion to a "supportive" group of new and edgy "friends," validation (and puting into overdrive) of the natural developmental tendency towards rejection of ones own parents. It takes a very strong willed, well-balanced and self-assured kid to resist and reject all of that. And even then, most kids and young adults today, have obviously exploitable vulnerabilities. We are dealing with a well-crafted, heavily funded psycho-social weapon, being deployed by those who want to destroy the family, control the population and create permanent medical patients. It's high time we start standing up to this--our kids may "hate" us today for things like changing camp plans, but someday they'll understand what we were protecting them from--and hopefully be without scars from this bloody battlefield.
Can you give us an update on how your son was upon return from camp? I'm hoping still steadily desisted...
Why? Why does every place we turn, our kids have this right in their face? My son was 18 before I knew about all of this- it's been 7 years. I had no place to turn, or how to pull him away. And now camps (and even Kdg, 1st and 2nd graders) are being sucked into this.
I hope your son's sense of self only strengthens, but sending him to this kind of environment must be anxiety provoking. I think the fact that you trusted him to go, sends a very powerful message to your son. I'd be looking forward to an essay-update. <3
Before I found out I didn’t have to affirm I actually registered my daughter as a male at a YMCA camp, and they were fine with it! Going to let her stay with biological males! Cancelled this camp as soon as I came to my senses. Got an email after the camp talking about inclusivity and all the rest of it. So sad.
HERE I GO AGAIN: One of the ways to try to stop this is through the courts. School systems, medical centers, and summer camps should have to pay millions in damages to folks, who as minors, were and are being brainwashed and harmed by this quicksand pit of thinking. I suggest contacting America First Legal (1-972-247-3800) or http://www.aflegal.org. Give these people a try. If they cannot help they may direct one to someone who can.
Honestly...this camp sounds like a nightmare. I hope it's the final nail in the gender coffin for your teenager. I cannot even begin to imagine being a young male at a summer camp counseled by confused l2+2 +5 lesbians!
This reminds me of my Evangelical Bible Camp experiences. I distinctly recall sitting in the bleachers at one of the lectures, noting to myself the ridiculousness of the speaker's statements. I was about 13 years old at the time. Upon my return home, I informed my mother of the divisive nature of the head speaker's speeches. My mother said to me: Keep thinking for yourself. That's great. And in the meantime, enjoy the canoeing, lake swimming, archery, and pottery classes -- all for the low price of $35 for one whole week! Got to take the good with the bad. That's life!
And, upon reflection, that stands out as a defining moment in my mind. It basically predicted a lifetime of sitting in rooms full of morally superior people, sussing them out, and bemusedly deciding I don't belong -- and don't want to.
In the meantime, I'm hopeful for your son.
I would rather my children become blackshirts than gender monsters. At least the former promotes fitness.
On a related note, don't kids see this nonsense as cringe worthy? It's all just so lame
My trust in the system faded so many years ago. The blind leading the blind.
WOW! Our innocent children and grandchildren are not safe anywhere! I was the Daisy, Brownie and Girl Scout leader for my daughter’s Troop for years. I took these sweet little girls to the same girl scout camp that I had attended 30+ years earlier. I cannot imagine having to experience it now with trans-gender counselors - I would not have been accepting or approving of having any males on campsite back then even if they had long hair or wore a dress and lipstick! This is WRONG! I pray that this world wakes up to the lies!
“So, there was nothing to be concerned about (except, I guess, the denial of material reality, and the expectation that parents ignore the evidence of their own eyes and ears?!).”
How have we come to this as a society?
I think it’s because, in the name of accepting and encouraging and not wanting to shame or stigmatize we suspended reality. I think we need to, gentle in manner but firm in conviction, push back at every opportunity. It will result in people being angry, labeling us wrongly (as “-ists” and “-phobes”), and perhaps even losing friendships. But our kids are important. Individually to us as parents, of course, but also collectively to society as the future adults who will lead, educate, and govern. And I do not want to be led, educated, or governed by somebody who has had a break with reality.
I have a friend whose child is a TiF and flies out from the UK to the US every year to act as one of these camp counsellors. Their indoctrination garnered from school, themselves a traumatised lesbian IMO. Now untouchable, no questions allowed to be asked. Complete submission expected to the lie.
I can only imagine the horrors that go on in these camps (smashing cis-heteronormativity) and imagine a number of kids will come home indoctrinated into the cult.
Sadly, I would recommend against summer camp unless you proactively know the camp does not support the Gender Ideology Cult. Also, you need to know they are vigilant with the helpers they hire. To give a different example, a particular church might not support GI but they could have a youth counselor who thinks he is helping children be their true selves.
None of this was on our front burner, back burner, or any burner when our daughter decided she must be a gay boy about half way through high school something like 5 years ago - and had a secret name and pronouns at school. I did not appreciate then that summer camp had been a factor at all but it was.
I hope I do not offend anyone when I voice my opinion that it is not responsible to send a kid in this state to be a counselor of any kind. Younger kids look up to older kids. We should not be part of the problem. Our daughter is as yet unharmed and is engaged with life & not acting so weird anymore. Cross fingers.
I hope that we do hit a tipping point with this garbage. Enough is enough.
For any Ontario, Canada parents, apparently this was created for all Ontario camps: https://oca29.wildapricot.org/resources/Documents/EDC%20LGBTQplus%20Resource.pdf
As the mom of just such a junior-counselor- I am indeed actively grieving.
My TIF daughter was a camp counselor last summer.
I couldn’t bear to allow her around grade school kids, this year, so I quietly sent her to a stem academic camp, not as a counselor, instead.
It would have been an excellent leadership thing and I know it was wonderful for her last summer.
But she’s also evangelical about the gender church and I decided it was irresponsible to let my zealot around younger kids.
“If you could go ahead and not talk about the queer theory around younger kids” is not a conversation I can safely have with her.
Im devastated that I have to make these kinds of calculations.
This fad can’t end soon enough.
Is there a parents' group? Parents need to band together to stop this shit.
With what I know today and have seen done to our daughter, I would have pulled the plug on that summer camp plan in a heartbeat. This trans vortex has been made so powerful with its promises of celebration, inclusion to a "supportive" group of new and edgy "friends," validation (and puting into overdrive) of the natural developmental tendency towards rejection of ones own parents. It takes a very strong willed, well-balanced and self-assured kid to resist and reject all of that. And even then, most kids and young adults today, have obviously exploitable vulnerabilities. We are dealing with a well-crafted, heavily funded psycho-social weapon, being deployed by those who want to destroy the family, control the population and create permanent medical patients. It's high time we start standing up to this--our kids may "hate" us today for things like changing camp plans, but someday they'll understand what we were protecting them from--and hopefully be without scars from this bloody battlefield.